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There has been misunderstanding by Thai academicians and Thai people that Pali along with Sanskrit is Indian ancient language. Many evidences show that Pali has been the ancient language of Siam for millions of years. Many Pali words and Northeastern words have been used in Latin and other Western languages.

Pali was the oldest language of the world as it was used by all God Puttha including Godama Buddha.

Maghati or Makor is found to be the Northern Part of Thailand. An ancient city of Nakorn Thai Tesh or Rajakruha was proven by our research team to be Chiang Mai Province in Northwestern Thailand. Both Rajakruha and Chiang Mai are "Benja Kiri Nakara" or the Five-Mountain Surrounding cities. The common mountain was Weparabanpot where Mae Rim District of Chiang Mai Province is located. It is the site of the Four Foot Prints of God Puttha and the Chaing Dao Cave (Sattaban Kooha) wher the first Sankayana (Revision) of Buddhis Tipitaka was held.

Makati Language, the language of Makot or  Maghati or Makata people, is not Indian-based as understood.  Most of the inscriptions found in pillars and stones in India were Sanskrit-based.  Makati, mostly known as Pali -the written recording of Dhamma. (Thai people have never thought Pali being borrowed from India until, a Dr. Bradley told Thai people that the Thai system of writing was derived from India's Palawa writing and that Pali or Makati was from India in BE. 2413 (1870 AD).)

   The Makati writing, called in Thai as Aksara Dhamma, was designed thousands of years to fit the grammatical rules of Pali semantic.  For example, the positions of vowels, floating vowels and sinking vowels, were only found in Pali writing.  The native writing of Northern and Northeastern Thailand was modified from Aksara Dhamma alphabets and scripted on Bai Larn  (Palm leave)or sand stone inscriptions, or stone inscriptions. The writing system was used only to record the teaching of the God Puttha (Buddha), Chataka (Buddha's past lives), and related stories.

If the Pali had not belonged to Northern and Northeastern people of Thailand, why did the invention of their writing systems (Asaka Dahamma) support the use in the Pali language?

Similarly, the Aksara Khom, or Khom  alphabets, were invented by Khun Khom Thai  15 years after his brother, Khun Sue Thai, invented the first Thai pictorial writing system in the In  Era 1235 (6,735 years ago) called Lai Sue Thai.  Khun Khom Thai's writing was called Lai Khom Thai and now mistaken as  Cambodian.  The alphabets in Lai Sue Thai would read Gau, Khau, Ko, Ngau.. with the long /o/ sound while Khun Khom Thai alphabet would read..Ga, Kha, Ka, Nga.. with a short /a/ sound. (1)

 It is evident that a writing system had already existed before the Buddha's time.(2) During his time, Lord Buddha mentioned the words "Pitaka" (books) and "Bai Larn Plao" (empty palm leaves with no writing on it) which show that the writing system had already existed.  It's therefore clear that during the Third Sankayana or Third Revision of Tipitaka, 500 monks must have all the Buddha's teaching put in writing and it took them seven months to complete.  If there were revising the scripture on orally it should not have taken them that long: i.e. seven months for the First Sankana, eight monts for the Second Sankana, and nine months for the Third Sankayana., .  The Fourth Revision which it was believed to be the first writtenTipitaka done in Lanka Dwip in Southern Thailand (not Sri Lanka or Ceylon) also  took them about the same time.

n Bangkok period, the Revision of the Scripture performed in time of King Rama I (King Ora Outtha Yod Fah) in BE 2331 (1788 AD) also took 10 months to complete recording Buddhist Dhamma in Khom writing on  Bai Larn  (Palm Leaves).and Gold plates (Supanna bat).

IIn addition, the uses of language patterns between Pali and Thai/Lao languages are very similar. Some words are used together to form a single word such as jitjai (Jit is Pali and Jaii is Thai)  showing that Thai/Lao and Makati people lived together or probably the same ethnic groups.  Many words in Pali were shortened and modified to become Thai and Lao words. (See "The Truth on Language"  by Atama Sirosiri).  

Here are some evidences that Pali language was used in Suwannabhumi:

Names of Cities, Rivers, Woods, People in Suwannabhumi  are Pali derivations such as Kukognatee (Kok River); Koranatee (Khong River);   Cheevayanatee (Chee River); Tanamoonnatee (Moon River); Lampakaliwan (Lampang Luang) etc. Pa Himapan (Pan Forest in Northest Thailand); Chetudorn (Udorn Province) etc. 

Even, male's organ in Thai and Lao language is derived from the Pali word "Kuiha" with /ha/ became silent in Lao and in Thai. The /u/ is converted to the alphabet /w/.

Kalamasutra was based on the story of Kalama villagers when the Buddha told them not to believe easily until they had investigated or thought about it carefully. Kalama was a group of people in the lower Isan of Thailand. They were the inhabitants of "Toong Kula" or Kula Field nowadays.



Comparing to George Lucas's Star Wars, we are under the influence of Episode 4, 5, and 6 of world culture in which India was given the credit as the cradle of the world civilization--with the help of British archeologists such as James Prinsep, Sir Alexander Cunningham and those before and after them.  How about the lost Episodes, Episode 1, 2, and 3 in which showing the time when civilization was taken to India. Actually, about 20 world civilizations were originated in the time of King In and Queen Kwag, the first monarch of Thai history. Brahmaism was originated in Siam and was brought to Southern India in the year 790BE when King Jatukam Rama Deva of Southern Thailand conguere Southern India with his naval fleet of nearly 80,000 Tamil soldiers (from Malaya Pradesh) and Singhalese Soldier from Singjapura who migrated to Southern Thailand.

     King Jatukam Ramadeva resocialized Sothern India for 10 years and made the three Gods known to Indians in 800BE (257AD). Soon Brahmais, spread and become locdlized to be the Religion of Sindhu Lands, pronouced Hindhu by Persian Indians.

 Pali was first known by Westerners in Siam.  A recent evidence supporting the claim that Pali was originated and used in Thailand was found by Mr. Krit Kittisak, a doctoral student in History of Buddhism in Taiwan.  He cited a passaged from a book  by O. von Hinuber. Seleced Papers on Pali Studies. Oxford: The Pali Text Society,1994, stating that the word "Pali" was known for the first time by the Westerners  in the 17th century. Pali language was introduced by M. Simon de la Loubere, who was appointed by King Louis 14th as the first French Ambassador to the Kingdom of Siam (Ayuddha) in the Reign of King Narayana the Great in 1687AD (BE.2230). 

     This book indicated that Pali was originated in Siam (Thailand)  and widely used by the Buddhist monks. The Westerners had the knowledge of Pali from Thailand.  The question is if Pali belonged to India, why the Westerners did not know about this Pali language when they colonized many Asian countries such as India b the British  and Sri Lanka by Portuguess? Is it possible that the Pali was limtedly used in other countries so it was not as widely used as in Thailand. As the authentic version of Pali was in Thailand.  Even after 2,500 years, Pali is still in used by the Buddhist monks. There are more monks and people who can read and write Pali  in Thailand than those in other countries.



(1) CALENDER SYSTEMS: In Thailand, there are three systems of date counting: (1) In Year lasting 4,150 years; (2) Lo years starting In Year 4,590 lasting 1190 years, and (3) Buddhist Year beginning at Lo Year 1190 and still  in use until now. Consequently, Thailand has the longest dating counting system nearly 8,000 years ago.

The In  Era (1-4150 IE) was the world's first date counting system. It started to used the names of 12 years, 12 months and seven days, initiated by Khun Hok Marong, the fifth  son of Khun Khao Kheow  (King In of Green Mountain) after the passing of his father at the age of 350 years. Khun Marong started the year of In Era at the year of his father's wedding with his mother Nang Kwag Tong Ma. (Queen Kwag). 

   Khum Marong also gave names of the 12 years using the names of 12 sons, the names of 12 months, e.g. Chuad Year (The Year of Rat), Chaloo Year (Ox), Karn Year (Tiger) etc.  after the order numbers of Khun Kheow Khiew's son ,e.g. Month Ai (One), Month Yi (two), Month Sam (Three) etc., and the names of seven days after the name of his sisters, i.e. Ah Day (Sunday),ChAn Day (Monday) etc.

 After King In's death, he was respected by his people as Pra In soon became Sanskitized to be "Pra Indra" (Inder) with green perplexion due to misunderstanding of his name "Khao Kheo" meaning Green Mountain.  The word In was the origin of the word "indies" "Indo" and "India" a possible proof that Khun In's time was the true beginning of eastern civilization. (From Venerable Am Dhammadhatto's The Inscription of Sand Stone Plates of Koobua, 1992).

(2) God vs. Godama: Did the word God exist before the time of Godama Buddha?

    In three books written by German Theologists: (1) Jesus Lived in India, (2) Jesus the Buddhist, and (3) Jesus Conspiracy, it was revealed that Jesus left for India at the edge of 14 and had studies Buddhism until he returned to the middle east at the age of 29. He started preaching and many of his teaching were recorded in schrolls found in many countries.

Godama Buddha was the Fourth Buddha, Millions of years before him there existed already three Buddha, before him namely (1) Kukuthsandho Buddha, (2) Gonakom Buddha, and (3) Kassapa Buddha.  In the future, the Fifth one, Metraiya  Buddha will come to this world. (Buddha is not his last name but the status of the who gets enlightenment.  Buddha means "the Enlightened One."  You can compare to "Christ" which is not Jesus's last name but his status after achieving his seven brotherhood and become Jesus the Christ.  "Christ" means the "Anointed One.")

Please view scanned photographs of evidence:

Writing systems existed since or before the time of the Buddha. The Third Revision of Tipitaka was recorded using Aksara Dhamma writing

The first sand stone records of the ITipitaka by Punna Dhera was found Koobua--the old and long time capital city of the Thai/Lao kingdom.

The bird--Mai Yahaka--in Savasti sang, "Jooka Goo, Goo"(Mine! Mine!) basing on the sound Jooka Goo!  The word "Goo" (ku) means "I" showing that the bird, in Savasthi, was in Thailand (By Atama Sirosiri)

Is Thai language really from India? Choompoo Dwip By Ekissaro Warunsri

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